chrisp65

looks like they even got to Pat's phone, the bastards

The problem being, the conservatives can't make a big song and dance about this issue. They can't say Scotland would be worse off because they wouldn't be allowed in. The reality being of course, that if Scots vote 'no' in order to stay in europe, they'll then potentially be out voted by southern tories that could indeed, take them out of europe anyway. Not an easy argument for Dave and George to make.

So what do you suggest we do to him then ? Put him on medication for a few years to cure his mental illness and then let him out in society and hope it worked ? Destroy him on the battle field, have him killed in action, both perfectly legitimate. But if captured, then it's the boring old due process that separates us from them. That's what we did with Rudolph Hess, you're surely not going to suggest this maggot is worse than Hess? Or have our collective standards dropped? No reason he can't spend the next 50 years in a small room seeing his own actions played over every time he closes his eyes. Incidentally, if he is ill, if he does have a psychosis and can be treated - are you suggesting curing him would be a bad thing? Would that be the case for all the mentally ill?

Yes, agreed lapal fan, and that is why we need organised modern society that is consensual with shared purpose. In the UK we have a population in broad agreement of most things, we have an organised tax system and an army and police force that are there to serve us. We have organised ourselves to provide clean drinking water. Putting it uber simplistically, that is a chunk of the reason why we got through several wars, the blitz, victorian anarchism etc.. Iraq, Libya, Syria etc.. are not like that, no common purpose and no genuine consensus. They are fakes. So when there is pressure, it cracks. That is why their army cannot help them and that is why, in the long term, our army stopping today's fighting is not really any sort of long term plan. When you consider that, and you put yourself in the shoes of a young unemployed male, or a family, or a widowed mother. Would you risk staying, fighting. or would you get in an open boat and hope the Italians or Maltese find you?

That's part of it, but only the surface. I hate that type of mythical answer. Exactly what happens in it? Could I do it? How far have you gone into it? I've gone to level 3 blue. When you realise going to level Neptune Omega usually means there's no coming back, you'll understand what 3 blue did to me.

You answered your own question before you even asked it. I've developed a technique for not being offended, shocked, scared, scarred or terrorised by these death porn videos. I can tell you how it works if you like. What I do is, I don't click play. The method of death is largely irrelevant. Given a choice of living in comparative freedom, or death by Israeli drone, IRA pub bomb, Shining Path assassination or IS random shooting or decapitation there is one clear winner. The method of death is simply there to scare people into giving up. The same as Guernica, the same as Pol Pot the same as Hiroshima, dominate the minds of the opposition to a point they give up before you have to actually fight them. The trick is, I guess, to be an informed liberal without being 'soft' and falling under the spell of the terrorist or the right wing politicians.

I wrote something that I half know and then decided to delete it. There you go, how's that for a half arsed vague tease.

used to be worse

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I was a mod in 1979, go for it.

hmmmm just looked up the listing / discog must get this

Is it what trendy scientists such as Brian Cox or Kent Hovind are now calling cold fusion?

you clearly haven't been on a naturist retreat

in an ideal world, somebody haggling over whether they get £40,000 a week or £60,000 a WEEK would automatically rule themselves out as they are not prioritising the football either salary makes this guy a multi millionaire as I say, in an ideal world

central brum not too scruffy

It's the Daily Mail, therefore it's safe to presume that he doesn't like Martinez, has never considered Everton and is still thinking about Hull. Meanwhile, they've taken copious photos of his missus.

spotters badge for Mr Rob182 well played sir

You'd expect it all to be a bit quieter over there today, being deadline day and all that.

For a science project with one of my nippers, we did a blind cola taste test. We all wrote down what we thought our fave was, then did the test. I managed to pick my fave, pepsi max which was reassuring. We all agreed Morrisons Cola and Ubuntu cola were about as nice as piss in a rusty bucket - we didn't use that wording on the project though.

yup, pepsi max and white bread are my two things I'm finding it ridiculously hard to break free of

What's the thing with 'diet' fizzy drinks, I'm sure I've seen somewhere that they are also bad for people trying to drop a bit of weight?

coke!

Waitrose you get to see what car she's driving you can see if the husband is sat waiting in the car* you get to see if she's buying kids yoghurts or milk formula the girl on the till can't walk away free coffee so you can make it a date posh womens are so up for it in the salad aisle * not always a show stopper

I applaud your choice of glass.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFs4lTau3YM I've never had a motorhome but I know a few people who've all had a go at it, I don't know if it's relevant but strangely they were all engineers. The thing I haven't quite understood with them is the cost, for the cost of buying and running one and putting in enough fuel to get away you could have an awful lot of nights in an awful lot of good hotels. One that's a decent size needs another smaller vehicle on tow because you aren't going to be able to pop into town in it once you've got to Padstow or St Davids or Mallaig etc.. Saying that, I guess you can decide on Friday night to go away Friday night and you know what standard of accommodation you'll be getting once you get there. But do all the sums and consider the alternatives for the same amount of money, I guess.