Woody1000

I'm getting tired of seeing people talk about £1million like it's £20!! We shouldn't let Whelen take the piss!!

sadly, we arent even that any longer by the looks of it. We're the very definition of a selling club! So I guess after all these years of "At least we're not Leeds" we are in fact now Leeds! How ironic that under Ellis at least we weren't Leeds is actually a positive! Can you explain for me how we are Leeds?

If Downing hands in a transfer request, I would reject it and stick him in the reserves. See if Liverpool are still interested after Stewie's had to pick splinters out of his arse for 12 months! I'm sick and tired of players who are quite happy to sign the contracts, but then don't want to honour them. Thanks to Bosman's, a 4 yr contract is actually a 2/3 yr contract - 2 years left you can just about get full transfer value, but 1 yr left and you're having to accept cut price! I know RL won't because football is business these days, but I would love to see us make an example of him, just to show these players who the boss is!! I don't believe Downing owes us anything - we got him injured in the first place, thus getting in ahead of Spurs and getting a decent price. I just want him to honour the deal he made. The thing that is really sticking in my throat about this potential deal is that we've seen this before with Barry, Milner, Young and now Downing - it's the old "I want to play Champions League football" line trotted out. Well no disrespect meant, but we're not exactly Wigan so how about you guys roll up your f***ing sleeves and get US into the Champions League!!

The thing that just really sticks in my throat about this is that it just seems that the board couldn't care less about how this affects the fans. If AM is appointed as Villa manager, I think they will struggle to see more than 25k at any of the first 5 or 6 home games. I could understand if he was a top coach, but he's been relegated a month ago, and now he's being considered as someone that can take us forward. This makes me wonder who's already turned us down!

I think the guy is a grade A clearing in the woods, but how can you call a manager that has won 2 La Liga's, a C.L and a Uefa cup a shit manager? No idea about La Liga. CL and UEFA Cup are easily won tournaments nowadays, with the right amount of resources, and the all important membership of 'the club' in the first instance. On the former, at half time do you think that he gave an inspirational speech at half time, or was sat their wringing his hands? But then he was lucky, so maybe we want a lucky manager... To win any league title, you have to have some quality about you - he won them with Valencia, not a minnow by any means, but they were up against 2 Super clubs in Real Madrid and Barcelona. Sure, you can have luck go your way in a cup run, but the best team always wins the league. That said, I don't believe that you can just 'luck' your way to a C.L win. There are too many top managers about for luck to take you that far. Plus you say about resources available, he hardley had massive resources at either Valencia or Liverpool when compared to the other big clubs around Europe. Rafa Benitez is a knob, but would I have a two time Uefa Manager of the year in charge at VP? In a heart-beat. I understand people not liking him as he is ex Liverpool, and the whole Barry carry-on a few years ago, but as far as managers we've been linked with if GH goes, Rafa is one of the few that actually comes with a history of winning trophies.

Ditto. To have a manager that had won either would be a coup for us, even if it was 'lucky'.

I think the guy is a grade A clearing in the woods, but how can you call a manager that has won 2 La Liga's, a C.L and a Uefa cup a shit manager?

agreed, personally i'd play him ahead of gabby who has been woeful this season Gabby has been played on the wing so it hasn't been a fair reflection of the player. ok, when he has played up front, he has been woeful, happy now? he hasn't played much on the wing So that's about 7/8 games this season then? Your player assessments are frankly ludicrous at times - how's that world class player at Cheltenham Town doing?

Great result, 1-0 flattered Newcastle really but was still nervous for the last 5. I've seen enough today to not be worried about relegation, but we need to start being more consistent or we will get sucked right back in!

This one really has me in two minds. On the one hand, you just look at it that it's a move that hasn't worked out for him, and he just needs to be moved on as he is earning too big a wage to sit on our bench every week. But I can't help thinking that there is a player in there, who can produce moments of magic. It's been a difficult season for us both on and off the pitch, so it is difficult to come in and produce top form. You've got all this talk about bringing in Charlie Adam, yet we've got a player who is potentially better IMO already on our books. Ideally, I'd like to see him go out on loan, it gets his wages off the books for 4 months and then we can look at things again in the summer.

I think this is a very good signing, and definitely what we've needed. It's been mentioned before that he's the player that NRC thinks he is, which is pretty much spot on. Could turn out to be a bargain at £5m!!

Yes he will mate, he played in their 2-1 defeat to Notts County.

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Fair play to you BJ10!! Hopefully, this will help push us up the table, and back to where we all want us to be!!!

In fairness Trent, I still back him. He must be financially backed in the next month, or we will go down - it's that simple. I wouldn't trust him with the change from the back of my sofa, I can't for the life of me think what makes you think he should be given another game let alone money to spend in January. I can see where you're coming from, but I just feel that if he can bring in a few of 'his' players, he could turn things around. It's a difficult decision for Lerner, will he make the right one? Only trouble is the guy is tactically clueless and unable to inspire, organise or motivate a side. Doesn't really matter if there his signings or not. I suppose I'm just trying to be supportive of him (not that it's doing much good lol). I just hope we don't go for somebody like Bg Sam - he just plays the same long ball shite that an ex-manager of ours used to play! If Houllier does indeed get the chop, I think it's got to be Jol surely?

In fairness Trent, I still back him. He must be financially backed in the next month, or we will go down - it's that simple. I wouldn't trust him with the change from the back of my sofa, I can't for the life of me think what makes you think he should be given another game let alone money to spend in January. I can see where you're coming from, but I just feel that if he can bring in a few of 'his' players, he could turn things around. It's a difficult decision for Lerner, will he make the right one?

In fairness Trent, I still back him. He must be financially backed in the next month, or we will go down - it's that simple.

I'm just lost for words - just when you think it can't get any worse, it does! I don't think it's the best way to go, but on today's performance it seems Houllier has lost the players (if he ever had them in the first place), and if that's the case then he's got to go.

FFS, if there is a god please can we have 3 points tonight!!!

I agree with most of this except I think we can definitely get a point, it's turning that into the 3 points we need that will be tough!!

For me this has got to be 4-5-1 with Sidwell or Reo-Coker coming in. Carew has looked a bit off lately, so he is the one to come out for me. It terrifies me with Cuellar at RB up against Bellamy, I think he will give him a torrid time on Saturday, but I hope I'm wrong. Backs to the wall, 1-0 win to the Villa - Dunney to break the Citeh hearts!!!!

That is nice!!!!

It didn't look that bad when we had LDV vans (well the red didn't look bad, it was a shocking logo!!)

Apologies, I brought this back up in the Milner to Citeh thread when I was told I was exaggerating by saying people were turning their noses up this time last year at the thought of signing Richard Dunne.

Think that’s a bit of an exaggeration. Just one thread I found, I'm sure there are others http://www.villatalk.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=54934&postdays=0&postorder=asc