PaulC

Yes very true, I was just making the point that party's split and change over the years . What labour stood for in its formative years bares no relation to what they stand for today.

So your point? They're a totally different party to what now to what they were in 1970 and labour are totally different to the first labour govt of Ramsey macdonald.

People who make these comparisions need to check their history Obama is nothing like Nixon. One was an ultra right republican who was evil and totally corrupt.

You cant compare Obama with Nixon. If you want a trainwreck of a president then choose Bush

Didn't they just ease off a little. They beat some of the bigger sides at home. Guess it depends on who they sign. I think Hull and whoever wins the playoff will struggle.

Yes fr Liverpool are 7th. Theres not much for us to make up beyond them. So I think we should at least be going for 8th spot

Yes its those type of clubs with mega rich owners that are running football not the minnow clubs

Yes would be interesting to see what price we would get on top 6

lol, he can still do the overhead kicks though!

The same could be said for Arsenal and Chelsea then. Not cheap but still foreign

Has anybody watched ' The Stoning of Soraya M' . That was the most harrowing filming of an execution I have ever seen.

As Newcastle and Sunderland are safe you'd expect both Spurs and Arsenal to win really

Could depend on whether he gets the Everton job! What other top jobs are there going? He's turned down us and Liverpool

This argument really annoys me. Wigan are kinda like Walsall, only instead of being sandwiched between Birmingham and Wolverhampton they are sandwiched between Liverpool and Manchester. They were non league until about the time we last won the title, and then they spent 20 years hanging around in the lower divisions. If you happened to be from Wigan and over the age of lets say, 25, and your house is barely 15 miles from Anfield, or Goodison, or Old Trafford or Maine Road then can you really be blamed for supporting one of those clubs? Ditto if you are from the areas immediately surrounding Wigan then your local team is probably going to Manchester United or Liverpool or Everton or City or Bolton. You aren't going to support Wigan. They are utterly **** by geography. They probably have the smallest catchment area in the English game. Compare that to Sunderland (who you used as an example) who really only have one local rival then it's pretty obvious why the gates are so different in size. If you live in Sunderland then you are closer to Edinburgh and Glasgow than you are to Manchester and Liverpool so if you want to go to a game then you support one of two teams or you have a six hour round trip for every home game. I'm not sure why a club is more deserving of Premier League football because it has fewer local rivals or a bigger catchment area. Yes and Wigan is more famous for Rugby and George Orwell really. They were a non league club until 1978 and it wasn't until Dave Whelan took over they made progress through the leagues. Many people may dislike him because he's outspoken but what he has done for that football club is fantastic. The population of Wigan is only 81000 and they took nearly half that to Wembley. So its very unfair to knock them just because they are small.

Don't agree that the more bigger clubs in the premiere league the better. Kind of sad to see Wigan go really! No matter what happens though they have got an FA Cup to show for it. If they can hold on to Martinez and their squad they can come straight back.

If we can hold on to Benteke and make some useful additions who knows maybe top 6/8. If West Brom finish 8th this season, I certainly think we're at least as good as they are.

I didn't expect this from Wigan

Yes Maloney has been a constant threat

Why would you expect them not to be? Their last day of the season show is going to be a total damp squib unless Wigan win tonight. no i expect them to be but if Arsenal win it sets up a Champions League showdown on the final day between two clubs who have an extremely fierce rivalry yet that seems to have been completely ignored....so far yep and although Arsenal hold the advantage in that regard I think their final game of the season maybe harder than the Spurs one.

I think its a great thread. The fact that on the night we could find whether Villa will remain in the Premiere league and we are talking about Barry Bannan - brilliant!

I couldn't have a wet dream over Eddie Marsan to be honest but a good actor. Real nasty piece of work in that film.

Yep I normally can handle violence in films but deads man's shoes was a bit too much for me. Havn't seen 'A room for Romeo Brass' will have to check it out

There were two cases of dog murders in the film.

Yeah that's a fantastic film. Very bleak, Yes little bit like a Shane Meadows film. Paddy Constadine directed it and he has worked with Shane meadows so some influence there.

After seeing Olivia Colman win two Baftas, has anyone watched "Tyrannosaur"? because I thought she was brilliant in that.