PaulC

Did you listen to Stan Collymore yesterday TrentVilla. He summed up exactly how I feel. Man City have achieved success the lazy way. Its been handed to them. They were a poorly run club for 40 years winning or achieving nothing and suddenly some rich people came in and buy them success. Its not like when we won the league and european cup. It wasn't bought for us.....Liverpool are not in the same category as City. If you dont see that I give up.

Yes I agree its no myth if you only have 1/3 of the players available to you then its going to have a negative effect on the national side.

Hard to pick but I think it will be a South American side, either Brazil or Argentina.

For an 18 year old he's amazing. Not seen anybody that good at 18 at left back ever.

me too

Yes but unfortunately walker is injured.....Great shame i think.

Yes but we have to look forward. we are not going to win this world cup so I'll all for bring talented young players in the squad.

Nobody is disputing that or even attempting to defend Man City. What they are trying to do is illustrate to you that Liverpool haven't got where they are after some hurculean struggle, they aren't David v Goliath and they aren't some little PL urchin done good. They are and always have been one of the biggest spending clubs. Yes they've done well this season and yes they've done better than I think anyone would have predicted but the amount they've spend also shouldn't be ignored, only some wish to try and ignore it or pretend its not the case. Yes I know liverpool are one of the bigger spending clubs.....

Mate you have not witnessed anything in Dougs reign other than the better days. We were never financially stable during his 25 years after he came back. He paid himself bonus after bonus for making losses. Never put his money in for transfers or to pay off the debt (even though he treated the club like his own and not as a shareholder like the other thousands - just because he had more shares and money) and had an ego that held us back year after year. You don't remember the bad times we had - we do and Randy only had 3/4 bad years out of the 8. That clearing in the woods had 25 years and more with some success in between and NEVER pushed us forward when he had the chance - Big Ron A Little, Gregory to name just a few in the Premiership years So yeah I'm thanking Randy for his time and going when he knew he had to and not hanging round like a bad smell that is spreading through our great club unlike that ******. Thanks Randy for putting your money into the club and making the infrastructure better and trying to make the team a success (at least with MON) I personally forgive you for hiring McLeish, we are all allowed a mistake or two and thank you for not getting us relegated unlike that hero to some.( Regardless of many thinking you are crap and have done nothing but wrong). Your McLeish was his McNeil, Your Houllier was his Venglos and perhaps your Lambert was his Turner. Yes Doug made money out of Villa Lerner lost money...........i remember the bad times under Doug...

Fact is Man City's spending far outweigh Liverpool's so why people keep trying to defend Man City by arguing how much Liverpool have spent is beyond me.

yes but bit harsh on Baker

yep its easy for us fans to knock Lerner when its not our money.

Good on Hodgson to pick Shaw ahead of Cole. He's not the old fuddy duddy that a lot people think....

No you didn't but my point was that City are in a league of their own when it comes to spending and players wages, They should win the league.

And Liverpool finished above a whole bunch of teams with less money than them. Welcome to the PL. Like Chelsea, Arsenal and Man U

I think they were a bit tired after wednesday rather than not wanting to play for him. If new owners take over and theres major funds available I'd like to see Lambert given the opportuntity to manage the club with better players at his disposal.....

Well in the end the team with the most money win.....

No progress from last season but did have more key injuries. Delph, Guzan, Vlaar and Westwood the only positives for me. Basically this seasons signings were inferior to last seasons.

He should have started like that

I thought we were ok until the 2nd goal but far too open. I think Lambert should have played KEA instead of Bowery or Bacuna.

Oh dear penalty.....

Agreed. Its a gutter, but nowhere near the levels of when Walker left. Thats right. Walker was brilliant when with us... He's been ok nothing more.

Didn't Derby get the lowest ever points total the last time they were in the Premier League..... What has that got to do with anything? Nothing i was just asking a question

Yes brilliant

Didn't Derby get the lowest ever points total the last time they were in the Premier League.....