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One thing Koumas can do well is play anywhere across midfield, could come in handy whe a bit short. Yeah probably 5 is too much 4 max I d say.

Anyone heard anything of Koumas to us for 5m? Just whispers around today that we've made a bid? My baggy mate says he'll be pleased with 5m

The best strikers in the game have a conversion rate of something like 1 in 4, and Owen is probably there or thereabouts. I agree that he isn't as good as he once was and losing his pace is probably the biggest reason why, and he wouldn't be worth the insane salary he would have wanted, but he is still a clever and effective striker. To state that he isn't good enough because he doesn't score on every chance is silly because by that demand you deem every strikers as poor. Of the five top scorers this season Drogba had third best shots/goals ratio of 20%, Rooney had 13% and Ronaldo 12%, while McCarthy and Viduka was best with 29% and 27% respectively. Some fair points. Wages we agree on. 100% is aggerated yes, but for me a player in the Michael 'I dont do anything but score' Owen mould must score 80% of chances. By this I dont mean shots to goals, I mean like the actual chances that come his way. When Van Horseface was in his prime anything that fell his way in the box would be in the net 8 times out of 10. Brazilian fat ronaldo has a career average of 4 goals in 5 games, thats what someone who does nothing but score should have; earlier in his career he was much more at barca etc, but in final year at madrid he was just a goal poacher. Id disagree that he is an effective striker, as has become clear in various games; I mean it is hard to guage this as he hasnt played for years but for example Euro 2004: Did nothing, one goal in 5 games ( i think, group games, 2nd round, quarters?), dispite playing with Rooney who was absolutley on fire. WC 2006, did nothing ,didnt score, heaved around looking slow and unfit, got injured as he does. Recent Eng B game against albania, did diddly squit, missed one good chance. Poor. Harsh I know he hasnt played for a while but its in my head. In conclusion, not for villa thanks!

Afraid to say, even when fit, Owen is not the player he once was, and never will be again. From the age of abiut 18 to 23/24 he was incredible. Believe me that player has died. He's lost all his pace, and as a player who contributes NOTHING but goals, you have to finish 100% of chances; Owen has never and will never do that. When he was younger he could also create goals for himself, can't do that anymore as he's got no skill ( never did have) or pace (used to have that and steam past people). Dont want him at all.

SUrely it cant be rocket science. Offer 10m Plus add-ons making it up to 11m/12m. Man! I wish I was rich so I could do these negotiations

He's said he wants to leave. Its always dangerous keeping a player who doens't want to play for you.

quiet here isnt it?

bit late was I?

10,00th!!!

Foreign players will rather live in London I reckon. IMO, MON is the absolute key to securing players LIKE sneijder. Villa are a big name, but neither he nor his agent will have heard of a lot of our very good none international players. Its up to MON to use his charm to attract people, of course holding an interview at our lovely new training ground will help

The boy looks special. That first goal is amazing. Of course you cannot sign him on that, but I enjoyed it. Im hoping for anoter paper report tomorrow "Villa ahead of Spurs AGAIN in Seijder race" and read some nice info.

Maaaaan Ill be peeved if young Wesley goes to Spurs. Bouma better have done his stuff!

Smith is overrated. No talent. Just goes round hauling people to ground as he has no anticipation and has to foul to make it look like hes on a par with players hes clearly not. Can't finish particularly well, and doesnt have the positional/technical play in the rooney style crative style. No thanks, for any money.

We shall see. I see a 451/433 away from home next year.

NRC agent was just on WM. Really keen. Made it very clear as well NRC is VERY happy to join he said "Nigel WILL sign as soon as the fee is agreed"

Petrov? :winkold:

Maaaan this quote is getting a roight kicking! Havent seen enough. Only one game, he scored a hattrick against i think dundee(orange kit); and was quite good, but they were sheet.

That bloke on the ic site. How early did he call the transfers, because he might have just started saying yep Young has signed as soon as we were linked, but got lucky? Not having a go just asking?? did he say anything before the papers linked us with Maloney or Carew?

how imminent are these 'immeinent' signings?

I think naming the position of the person would drastically increase the chances of the name being obvious would it not? sshhhhhhhh.... :winkold:

IMO, not a chance for 4m Anything source wise you can tell us twirly, without naming names? Maybe the position of the person, at villa or werder??

But then it says he wants to leave

this much ££££££££££££££££££££££££££££ Nah, not sure, do we get a set sum or is it all down to shirt selling. Remember they aren't our sponser, just our kit manufacturer so the sum will be dependent on sellgin figures (oh look Ive answered my own q). We will sell loads

Makes you wonder why with all that talent a big club hasn't taken a gamble on him. Is it just down to character and attitude? It is. His stinks. Based on what? Falling out with Bryan Robson, who after Steve McClaren, is probably the biggest waste of air in the world of football management. Just to reiterate, Koumas was their player of the season. Bryan Robson decided he wasn't 'pulling his weight' so farmed him out to Cardiff, where he scored 13 goals in 44 appearances. He then went back, signed a new contract, battled for his place and is now their player of the year again. Tha doesn't strike me as a particularlt bad attitude. Im not saying i dont want to sign him, i do, ive sad that all along. 6m is abit steep, but I digress... He does have a bad attitude, its shown when things don't go his way. He demanded a move form baggies when they went down, then out of the blue stopped going to training sessions. I'll think of more incidents later, but that IS why he hasn't moved yet, managers have heard about this lack of discipline. Bit of a melon all in all. Hopefully hes grown up. As a player I'd love to see him just given license to roam in a kind of 4-4-1 behind the front man. He would absolutley rip teams apart.

Makes you wonder why with all that talent a big club hasn't taken a gamble on him. Is it just down to character and attitude? It is. His stinks.