What is total rubbish? He claims, self avowed, to be a box to box player and thats what he wishes to be.
We do often have this debate, and it does indeed add to my desire to get rid of him, because it's **** tiresome. So that's not rubbish either.
Nothing player? Well, thats my opinion of him. Good engine, good athlete, can tackle. Passing problem is overplayed but it's hardly his strong point, technically dire, touch that would embarrass a sex offender... etc etc etc.
Martyrdom if we do rightly ditch him? I think you'll find thats speculation with, imo, some warrant given the clamour by some that he is some saviour that would improve us no end, but regardless as speculation struggles to be wholeheartedly 'rubbish'.
You say yourself we've been over this before so I'll not waste my or anyone elses time debating such a run of the mill athlete, and because of those previous debates I shouldn;t really need to reiterate that I think he's a resoundingly poor player who's use for Aston Villa has passed.
Edit for some speeling.