RIght so next, I've gone through every Council UK wide and counted the Labour gains and losses in my head and got +253, the Guardian say +252. I'm prepared to think I was one out somewhere
Which now makes me think the Tory loses on the Guardian site are more or less correct as long as the breakdowns of each council are correct, so I'm going to have to argue that the others are now over representing the Tory losses too
I give up. Sky and the BBC have Labour up 65 seats in Wales. I just counted all the Labour Gains in Wales and got 70
I chose Wales because it was the easiest
The problem being I'm having to use the Guardians Indivdual Council results because Sky and the BBC don't show them
Yes thats exactly what I'm taking about 2018, even looking at 2014 the previous time these seats we up for grabs as a measure of how the bar was already high for Labour in this cycle
2014 Labour were up 324 seats then the next time of this set of seats in...
2018 Labour gained another 79 (again the bar was already quite high) now this year as it stands right now with more to come...
2022 Labour are another 252 up
EDIT: I looked back even further to 2010...Labour gained another 417
So you see how very high the bar was on this cycle?
The last elections aren't relevant. The elections 4 years ago are relevant because those are the seats that were up for grabs and 4 years ago was pretty much peak-Corbyn Labour made many gains, the Tories lost lots in 2018.
Just to clarify I mean they aren't relevant to the specific losses happening today
There's something in the air in Neath Port Talbot (Yes I know) what the hell happened there. Labour and Plaid both losing seats to some Indies (And a LibDem and a Green)
Its being rather cautious if thats the case, its in Bulgarian airspace, it could be in Romanian airspace and be a few miles from the ship and still be in NATO airspace
Yes but like I was saying yesterday somewhere, it's unlikely that Labour will get a majority, so it's very pleasing to see that the LibDems are having the resurgence they need to be able to take enough seats so that Labour don't need to do deals with the SNP
To the first part, yes they are remarkably bad results for the Tories but the idea that they already lost some marginal councillors last time isn't really relevant, what they've actually done is lose a hell of a lot of councillors elected in 2018, which was a year they already didn't perfom well in. It's actually much worse than you've painted it. They had a low bar to begin with in this election cycle and they've managed to lower it much further
I guess it doesn't matter that much but it is about 150 miles south of the ship, I suspect its more keeping an eye on the Russian ships out of Sevastopol at this stage
Another one overcompensating for the utterly silly numbers they've been quoting all day
The St Albans result, whilst the council was already a LibDem one, the Tories lost 19 of the 23 seats they had (now only have 4 seats remaining there). That's an absolute shoeing
Yes, the tracker on the Guardian is constantly updated. I think that big jump from when Blandy posted it to now is the +14 Labour got in Monmouthshire which has taken a Tory Council to No Overall Control with Labour being the largest Party. Monmouthshire is Tory Farmer central. Thats a huge result
the 40 seats thing is bollocks, Sky and the BBC keep saying this and its utter rubbish. It was utter rubbish at 7am and its still is now
Tories -334
Labour +197
LibDems +165
Greens +75
Others (Indies / Ratepayers / local lunatics) - 224
Nobody at the BBC or Sky seem to be able to recognise the utter tripe their figures are. They were fubarred when I got up this morning and have remained that way all day
It says Labour has had a good day. Todays elections were replacing the 2018 councillors which was already a very good set of results for Labour. They’ve built on that by a considerable number.
The Lib Dems and the Greens have had exceptional days