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How so? because for one there is always the fear that Sony will drop their camera division if its not profitable, it is merely a small arm in their business. Nikon make Cameras and scientific instruments involving lenses mainly, it is their major product. They have as complete a range of products as you could wish for (the same is not that same for Sony) To me these days and SLR camera for the semi serious has to be either Canon or Nikon

Which also makes me think this was planned to a degree before any economic situation developed. Food is doing OK so M&S say but today they announce that they are closing a number of simply food outlets, they wouldn't be the ones they located badly in the first place would they? Where I live they actually moved the Simply Food to a bigger store last year, which came as a bit of a suprise as the original store was purpose built for them (by someone else), it did so well they needed to increase the size of the shop. I also noticed some of their stores in lower rent areas have been Rebranded M&S outlet stores and basically sell off the remains of old lines in them. I remember when M&S used to sell this stuff cheap in job lots to other stores, you know the "major label discopunt stores" type shops

so people will start doing the naughty stuff on pay as you go phones, seriously yet another pointless erosion of civil liberties

Well I have another argument against As soon as this technology becomes available to referees, they wont use it how you think they'll use it. As time goes on, they will use the technology more and more and their own eyes less and less.Nearly every decision will become a video decision. It wont be long before refs start to stop the game because they think there may have been something but they didnt quite see it, right now, if they aren't sure play carries on but with this it'll be stop, stop stop all the time. Refs will soon stop the game just to see if there was an infringement, One moan from a captain and it'll be straight to the video (again more time wasting). Then presumably, they will have to add on time at the end of each half for all the video stoppages and even the rednosedtosser will be amazed at how much time is added on at the end of a game Its the nature of the beast I agree, but the refs are marked by external assesers so they would be marked down for stopping the game so much so it wouldn't become as bad as you say. Also Video evidence can only be used for Penalty decisions and red card incidents so how many of them do you have in a game? I just want those big decisions to be correct. The rest of the game remains untouched. I really can't see the downside. Since the upside is big decisions are called correctly. So what happens if the video evidence is called for and its a foul but is deemed to be outside the penalty area? Games still been stopped do they use the evidence or not? To not use it makes them look daft and as soon as they do use it, it gets used everywhere because otherwise it just wouldn't be fair not to Why would you need video evidence for red cards? They are usually pretty blatent or does that include every possible foul by every player already booked Why will the decisions be correct with video evidence? There are still Villa fans and commentators who have watched the Barmby incident and think it wasn't a foul, they've watched it many times and still think it wasn't a foul. If they still think that wasn't a foul from video evidence what makes you think the correct decisions will be made all the time (and quickly for that matter)

And also how long will it be before the Phil Browns of this world want something looked at again from a different angle whichever suits his team Its the thin end of a very dangerous wedge for me

Well I have another argument against As soon as this technology becomes available to referees, they wont use it how you think they'll use it. As time goes on, they will use the technology more and more and their own eyes less and less.Nearly every decision will become a video decision. It wont be long before refs start to stop the game because they think there may have been something but they didnt quite see it, right now, if they aren't sure play carries on but with this it'll be stop, stop stop all the time. Refs will soon stop the game just to see if there was an infringement, One moan from a captain and it'll be straight to the video (again more time wasting). Then presumably, they will have to add on time at the end of each half for all the video stoppages and even the rednosedtosser will be amazed at how much time is added on at the end of a game Its the nature of the beast

What if the decision was that it wasn't a goal, the game has ben stopped artificially for something that didn't happen (see my previous post)

Isnt Arteta into the last 18 months of his contract now?

See stopping the game for that is fine IF the ball does cross the line, if the ball doesn't cross the line however what happens? Some of these ball / line decisions are replayed time and time again before people come to a correct decision, it can take an age What happens if the ball doesnt cross the line, its still in play but the ref will have stopped the game to get a decision, how does the game then restart? The obvious answer would be a drop ball as no one has done wrong. Where should the drop ball take place? In the centre circle? well thats not fair on the attacking team, they've lost ground. At the penalty spot of the correct box? Well thats not fair on the defending team, to have to potentially defend again something which apparently they'd already succesfully defended. Se the thing is once the technology and the ability to use it is in place, refs will rely on it more and more, even for cases which they were 95% sure anyway. Nah give me human error anyday. What we need is better refs

He's not really Gay Ash but he does live next door to Alonso who grew up in the same street as him, played in the same kids team and is basically his bestest friend in the whole wide world. There were whisperings that Liverpool wanted to buy Arteta at the start of the summer (and those whispers were from inside Goodison) but it never materialised

Arteta simply wont move because he lives next door to his gay lover Xabi Alonso, with whom he used to frolic bare chested and hand in hand with on Catalonian beaches as a young boy (parts of this post may indeed be lies and slurs on the character of Mikel Arteta but hey wtf)

No we don't, we have already played Arsenal twice and taken 4 points

Yup

Yep, he's only worth 8 at best on current form

Only just found out about your loss General, you have my thoughts and condolences

I love the way you go for the "If I say it enough times people will believe me" approach

I think you have the numbers the wrong way around

Aye LL you are correct there, I'm wrong, the median would be 2

What does that even mean? Are there a bunch of tri-legged people running around I haven't noticed or something? No it means that because not everyone has twolegs the average (mean) is less than two as all the amputees lower the mean, not significantly but they lower it. So nearly all human beings aren't amputees, so anyone with two legs (ie most of us) has an abopve average (mean) number of legs Now the above also works for the median (as that would be 1 leg) but if we used the mode, the mode would be 2 and then nearly everybody would have the average number of legs

Grounds for Divorce by Elbow A live in concert version, in fact I'm not just listening to it I'm watching it, on The FabChannel which is the real reason I'm posting. Its a great website for watching live concerts. Sound is great as are the visuals, no shonky phone vids, these are proper proffessional vids, done in conjuction with the venues (and one presumes the artists), seriously its a top website has something for most people

Yep thats the way to do it, start off with the good stuff and once you've killed your taste buds stone dead, drink any old shit

Top drawer that Scott!

might be time to have a headache paddy simulation is only a yellow card offence anyway

PSSSSsssttt It was on the previous page :nod:

Zavvi seemed to take over Virgin and think that changing the sign outside would bring them success. They really must have believed in the Branson Just brand it and it'll sell policy, Doh! I went in there the other day to look for a box set of the complete Ealing comedies which HMV had had on offer but run out of. They wanted £60 for it, normal bog standard DVD's of old films, really old films.........shocking. (I'm sure it was only £25-30 in HMV) EDIT: hopefully they'll have a realy good everything must go sale in Jan