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Nope, VAR is there for major game changing decisions like goals, red cards, penalties, etc. A dodgy corner, from which villa failed to compeye, as they have done season long, is not a decision for VAR. Basic defending, and i emphasise BASIC would have prevented that 2nd goal, nothing to do with VAR.

That isn't even close to what i said, but if you want to invent a narrative to support your baseless opinion go right ahead

Bollox, we were dire. Lost to a bad corner decision? Rubbish. Regardless of the poor decision, guilberts defensive work was poor, and the decision to put him on Rodri was dire. I put this defeat down to, as always, poor defensive coaching. I truly believe DS needs to be releived of his duties, as he clearly does not understand how the top flight works

No, you've taken me entirely out of context. If anything, a fan feels more than a supporter, due the implied fanaticism / obessession connotation, and if you don't see that, then there isnt anything , i or anyone else, can do for you, as the definitions are clearly different. One implies a moral or financial backing (supporter) whilst the other implies a following devoid of negative conontations (fanatic). If you do not see that, then i feel sorry for you, as you clearly lack a firm grasp of the english language. This is the last post i will make on the subject, as anyone who does does not see the difference between the two words lacks a basic undetstanding of the english language, to such an extent, that debate is pointless. If you do not grasp the distinction that fanactic implies, you have my sympathy. But do not get me wrong, contrary to Tro's description, i'd argue that a fan experiences emotional distress to a greater degree than a supporter, due to the fact that a fanatic gives unconditionally positive backing, whereas as a supporter does not. But each to their own. Just to note, that my wofe, who has a Phd in this field agrees with my synopsis. Wether you agree, or disagree, is irrelevant.

I didn't use the word etymology as i didn't think it was accessible enough for everyone to know what it meant. So, for giggles, theres the dictionary definition for fan Fan 1 And for supporter: Supporter Similar, but certainly not the same. Also, notice in the definition for Fan, it notes the word is short for fanatic, so heres that definition as well Fan 2 So, even looking at the dictionary definition, its still abundently clear the words do not mean the same thing. Fan implies a degree of obsession that is not implied by the word supporter. I agree, dictionary definitions and etymology do not dictate the colloquial or common usage, but then, i didn't start the dictionary definition argument, i'm merely pointing out that the assertion that the dictionary definitions of the 2 words are not the same. We can look at common usage, as urban dictionary is a useful tool foe this Supporter 2 Fan 3 Still not the same.

I'd love for you to post links to where you 'interpreted' that 'fan' and 'supporter' have the same meaning, because quite simply they do not. It seems like what you looked at was a list of synonyms. Synonyms have similar meanings or can be used in the same context - this does not mean they carry the same meaning. I've a degree in lineage of words and can tell you in no uncertain terms that 'fan' , being short for 'fanatic', implies a degree of obsession, whereas a 'supporter' carries no such connotation. I'm not going to get into 'which is better' as that's open to interpretation. But to say the two words mean the same thing just can't be further from the truth.

Why are we always so sh1t away from home? Never look ip for it, and soton arent even a good side - taking us apart...

As must-win a game as you could get at this stage. Winnable, absolutely. Players capable, 100% Outcome, sorry all, i can only see us losing this 3 - 1

13 indiividual errors leading to a shot in 45 minutes for drinkwater, more than the rest of the team combined. If thats an improvement, we should send him back right away.

DS has used up all the good will he built up in the championship. He has proven, time and again, he is out of his depth at this level. He isn't learning from his mistakes, and you can see from the performances, he isnt coaching mistakes out of the players, so what is he bringing to the table now? There are loads of managers out there that can play and instill an attacking ethos in a team at the expense of defensive cohesion. They make a living in the champ and other such leagues around the world. What we need is a coaching team that can do both, and the current regime isnt doing it. 26 games is more than enough time to get a cohesive defensive unit working with a dangerous offensive unit, but its the same mistakes by the same people every game, and a lot of it is down to the tiki-taka football we play at the back. For me, even in players like Engels who had a mare yesterday, there are some signs he is adjusting to the league, i just dont see it from DS. Drinkwater was garbage all first half, should have come off long before he did, but no, DS has his pride or cant see the wood for the trees and does nothing. Samatta was causing all kinds of issues and holding up play really well, and to me didnt look tired, i even recall the commentator saying a few mins before he came off how much fresher he looked at the game went on. DS takes him off and suddenly that danger to the spurs defence is gone, the hold up play disappears and we go front front foot to back foot in an instant. Its not just this game its pretty much every week. DS consistently makes poor choices in team selection, tactics, subs, etc. Its so frustrating. Even when he makes the right move its often 20 minutes too late. The fans can see it do how does an experienced manager not?

It wont matter as DS doesnt have the bottle, nouse or technical/tactical know how to put it right. A good championship manager but completely out of his depth at this level and has shown he isnt learning from HIS mistakes, time and again. If/When we go down, the buck starts and stops with the coaching team. The mistakes that have haunted all season are coachable, and to still be making the same basic errors on day 26 as on day 1 is a testament to the complete ineptitude of the coaching staff. These players are capable, the coaches, not so much.

Defence is shocking, and has been all season, with and without mings. I, personally, blame poor defensive coaching. Also, after a 2 week break, i struggle to understand why so many players looked dead on their feet after 60 minutes! Is it poor conditioning? Or, are we training too hard? Either way, its poor coaching. Going forward, we can look amazing, despite some really poor moments from el ghazi and trez. Grealish and samatta looked very good today. Drinkwater should not be in this team. In every game he has played, everytime the ball goes near him it leads to a shot against. The guy is a liability of the highest order and should be sent home. Complete waste of time and money and i 100% blame anything he does on DS as he was a DS signing - shockingly bad player. Overall, most of the issues that have plagued us all season, from individual errors, poor passing, poor fitness, are all coachable. Pretty much none of these players, other than Grealish, looked better today than match day 1, and that falls at DSs feet. I love the guy, and want him to secceed, but wanting it doesnt make him a better coach. He has shown himself to be naieve time and again at this level. I see no progression, and no improvement, no sign that he is learning from his experience in the Premier League. It kills me to say it, but i really think DS needs to move on if we are to establish ourselves at the top level again. I truely feel the coaching team are holding the players back.

Too much messin from targett

That challenge by a spurs player gets no card, pathetic

Great game from ally for me. So much more effective than wes

Great from nakamba there

Grealish looks like hes really enjoying himself today

Get baston on. Could use his aerial ability at corners

Really sorry we didnt sign Vida. Him in the middle of a back three with mings and engels would be class

FINALLY drinkwater the rubbish is taken off.

Get that muppet drinkwater off the pitch. Not good enough for league one nevermind the prem. Pure calamety!!!

Drinkwater is an accident waiting to happen. One of the worst signings ever.

That starting 11 for villa is poor in the middle. Drinkwater is a liability and o fear for our inexperienced back 3 without mings in there. Can only see a heavy defeat coming here.

Currently Sarkic is the better keeper by some distance, but he is 4 years older. I'd have liked Sarkic to have been our cup keeper tbh as i think he needs games to push on. Seems a strange call to recall him from loan and then sign another senior keeper. Dont understand the point of recalling him if we plan to let him leave in the summer. Also firmly believe letting him go would be on par with letting Cahill go, i think he is that good.

Plaued left wing mostly for the u23s. You might be mixing him up with robinson.