I think with Moyes though, he had lost the dressing room by this time last season. I don't think LVG has the same issues, and that's down to his managerial nous.
Sometimes I wonder with Moyes, had results gone a little different very early on, even preseason games, would things have turned out better for him there...it's not like he morphed into a bad manager overnight. Maybe the pressure made him lose self belief and the players could smell it.