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I did....looked really good... but was the ball ache of another two suits to hire.... Mind you... you're weddings on a beach isn't it topless and linen trousers all round?

No you're not...... :oops: :winkold:

Oh Gareth. Now my keyboard is all sticky. :oops:

Not being able to go in the QIA thread on VT now. Blandy has posted something that makes me want to spaff......

The main reasoning behind three wrong bloke don't sack argument is that no one else wanted the job last time and what's left now is worse.

6th, 6th, 6th, 9th, thats exactly what you would expect from a bottom 5 club? Before you start quoting playing squad at me, yes it has changed, but there is enough quality in our team to be higher in the table. You saying we are bottom 5 suggests you have just given up on the club. We are not, nor should you think we ever will be that bad. All we need is a manger who knows what he is doing. Or a manager with no wage restrictions and pretty much unlimited funding for transfers? MON is was and for ever more shall be a better motivator than McLeish, but he didn't exactly know what he was doing in Moscow did he? Or during the traditional March/April collapse.

Im sorry, but we could just as justifiably argue that the second half was more systemic of what McLiesh is. I never saw him once waving people forward, anywhere. Given time and money, there is only one place this fool is taking us and its not up. So the first half was nothing to do with McLeish presumably? He just got the players in at half time and told them to defend for 45mins? Don't accept that at all. Ah, go on then, put those words into my mouth! I watched 45 minutes of inaction as Blackburn bossed the game. The substitutes were poor, really poor and did not take into consideration where the game was or actually what was needed. Tactically naive. As for not accepting it, you wouldnt. Your appear to think that McLeish is not responsible for this debacle and constantly look for excuses to blame others, sounds very reminiscent of the man himself. I am not sure what you have seen to justify your stance, to me it sounds a lot like the emporers new clothes. Haven't said that. IMO he isn't rhe right man for the job. But he's here, he won't resign, and having paid £12m in compo in the last 2 years, he ain't getting sacked either. But he is not solely responsible for the failings this season. We have players that aren't good enough, players that don't listen to him, and his own mistakes both tactically and in terms of team selection. Combined with the financial restrictions we have a perfect storm of shite. Where he has been at fault I have said it...l following the surrenders against the top six season for example. Yesterday however was not down to him and him alone.

Since you've seen the game 3 times, presumably you had your eyes closed at the footage of AMc on the touch line ordering the players forwards and not to sit too deep? That's the problem with logic without knowledge, it's just personal prejudice.

I can't see how anyone can be so blinkered as to the think the squad just decided to play well, and then did what McLeish wanted after half time. It's total nonsense.

No they weren't, what game were you watching ? I watched the MOTD highlights of the game 2 times since yesterday. Second half highlights they showed was all Blackburn. Every second ball was falling to them, and we couldn't string more than 3 passes together.in the 5 mins they screened. Fixed for accuracy.

Im sorry, but we could just as justifiably argue that the second half was more systemic of what McLiesh is. I never saw him once waving people forward, anywhere. Given time and money, there is only one place this fool is taking us and its not up. So the first half was nothing to do with McLeish presumably? He just got the players in at half time and told them to defend for 45mins? Don't accept that at all.

I think you have a great point there - but this begs the question as to what does McLeish, or any other manager, have to do to get players to start playing confidently? Short term We need to nick a result, a win, but not based on 30mins defending a 1-0. We need to performance that shows going forward wins you games. Long term we need to ditch the "experience" of Collins and Dunne. Get 2 new CBs in and partner them with Cuellar. A new creative force in midfield to partner Stan, and play Ireland off Bent. A new winger instead of Albrighton and we may need to kill the sacred cow that is Gabby, as much as it pains me to think it. Oh, and a couple of full backs too. All to be achieved in a climate of reducing the wages and having **** all to spend. Shouldn't be too hard......

I'm going to preface my post with the following so my perspective is understood. I'm not: a "McLeish apologist," a blues fan, happy with our league position, defeatist, or ginger. However, I also do not believe that McLeish was ever, nor is now the right man to take Aston Villa forward. I also don't see any sense in sacking him. The game yesterday demonstrated what he is capable of, good quality, dominant attacking football. For the first half anyway. So what happened in the second half? I saw a group of players devoid of confidence desperate to avoid the catcalls and booing they have recieved on several occasions this season. A team with a 1-0 lead who went backwards trying to protect it and failing dismally. McLeish stood on sidelines pushing the team forward urging them not to sit too deep, and not first time this season he was ignored. his decion to bring on Bannan and Gardner were hardly negative or defensive. Yesterday, like others before it showed me that McLeish COULD take us forward and have us playing decent football and winning a few games. Trouble is, he needs the finances and the support from the fans and board to achieve it. The squad needs a major overall, new centre backs a support striker, a creative midfielder and a winger. Can't see him getting the time to do it.

A similar amount to that made by Blair and Brown when lenders were handing out 120% mortgages like sweets to those with no hope of repaying and on properties that would never reach that valuation. Without considering the fact there were watching watching the city basically do whatever the hell they wanted. From the party or state control and hands on regulation, pretty negligent I'm sure you'll agree. But they are not in power anymore so you're not allowed to mention it. That rule is only waived when blaming Thatcher, in which case the 80's can be considered as yesterday for the purpose of comparison. never a truer word spoken.

What's the obsession with Wellbeck? What has he done? My team? Hart Baines Lescott Cahill Richards A Johnson/A Young Parker Milner A Johnson/A Young Sturridge Holt (In lieu of Bent) Get shot of the entire failed "Golden generation" now. They've all had their chances and failed dismally.

A similar amount to that made by Blair and Brown when lenders were handing out 120% mortgages like sweets to those with no hope of repaying and on properties that would never reach that valuation. Without considering the fact there were watching watching the city basically do whatever the hell they wanted. From the party or state control and hands on regulation, pretty negligent I'm sure you'll agree.

Got the good news from Kent's Finest this morning.39 in a 30. Speed awareness here I come.

G man popped the question?

Eh? Looks like it could do with some Brown Sugar to me.

When OffTopic invades VillaTalk and the regular VTers have no idea how to handle it.

Ace.

Bastards. Really? I'll have to go and have a look! EDIT - Just read it. Superb.

Its superb BOF. Truly superb.